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it isn't just republicans who have been against gun safety laws even democrats like bob casey has balked at new laws in the past but he now said the newtown shootings made him reconsider. joe, do you think we'll see more pro-gun democrats evolve? >> i think you will. you also have joe mansion a democrat of west virginia who said that even thinking about what hand in newtown has caused him to rethink his position about gun safety. and you have a guy who shot a gun in a campaign ad. he won in a state where guns -- there's a lot of fishing and hunting culture there. so that's a big major step in the other direction. >> jennifer: let me jump in on that, because donnie really can anything get past on gun safety in this congress? >> the pro-gun people think the best thing to do here is just watch and wait. this is not the first school shooting. it's not the first mass killing. and every time the nra has come out ahead in the last 20 years, and they have just watched and waited. so you don't see them actively pushing every day on this. and they were silent for the fi
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